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Lorna-A
#21 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 8:49:08 PM Quote
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HI Naomi,

I am so glad your consultant is on the ball. I feel for you being in such a bad place at the moment. I remember feeling that bad when first diagnosed. My consultant put her hand on my arm and told me I would not walk out of her room as bad as I had just walked in. These are words which I will never forget, and I didn't; the steroid injection had me moving within a few hours. It really is a horrible place to be until you get the drugs sorted out. You will feel a tremendous difference talking to the Psychologist, I think just having someone to listen to you helps. Keep a diary to see yourself improving, you will I am sure see things change soon. The fatigue is dreadful when it strikes, remember try not to let it get you down, easier said than done I know. I used to tell myself, things could be worse, I just kept hoping to beat this.

Naomi You will get your life back try to be positive, I have now and have been well for years, if someone had told me that years ago I would have struggled to comprehend it. There was a time I needed my husband to feed me drinks as I could not hold the cup, I needed him to cut my food up and brush my hair, he had to take the tablets out of the foils as I could not do it myself. I needed lifted onto my feet as I could not lift myself up. I was bedridden at that point, and I cried as much of the time, the pain was agony, I had lost the use of my right arm and the movement in my neck, I had pain even in my jaws and up the back of my head, it still haunts me when I think of it now. It was just 2 weeks before Xmas, I really thought my number was up. Then I was told at the first meeting I had RA ( which up to that point I had never heard of it.) I was told the blood test would prove it in two weeks, which it did and like you left me shell shocked. It took a time to get my head around it and make my mind up to beat it.

The point of my telling you this is I am as well as before now, as long as I do not push things and exhaust myself which I did yet again this week and have paid for it. Smile I usually lose 2 days when I do this but I have been busy decorating my kitchen, I have done half of it and have been unable to do anymore for the last week as I have hurt my knee and arm doing too much. I feel better now but it can wait until after Xmas, the bit I need to do is above the cupboards, the dining area is complete. Smile You will get a lot better than you are now, you just have to believe you will and I truly hope your new drug helps to make you smile again very soon. Lots of hugs for a lovely Xmas, you have lots of friends on here who really know how you feel.

Keep smiling, Lorna xx Smile
Naomi1
#22 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 10:53:59 PM Quote
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Lorna, I just read your post describing when you were seriously ill and you could have been telling my story of when I was severely ill earlier this year. The husband holding a cup to the lips, unable to get up unaided, thinking you might actually die. I think when you go through something like that it shakes the very foundations of your confidence in yourself. I feel so much better knowing that you and others really understand how bad a flare can be. I also hear you when you tell me I'm still learning how to cope with this. Despite my label as an 'advanced member' I was only diagnosed in August and have a lot to learn about pacing, not overdoing it and....well just coming to terms with a life altering illness and all the uncertainty it brings. I have really listened to what you've said and what all the others have said about how things will get better and I believe you. I would not have been able to take this from people who have not got RA, including medical professionals, because what do they know about the actual experience. Over the last few days I have been at rock bottom and could not see a way forward. I had lost all my zing and was not interested in anything. It felt like the world was going on and I was not even a part of it. Now I feel so much more hopeful that the awful physical and emotional feelings will pass and that things will improve. So thank you Lorna and everyone else for helping me to see that there is a way forward. I am so touched at all the replies. i was so low that I didn't even think anyone would be bothered to reply.
jenni_b
#23 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:08:30 AM Quote
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Hey Girl! Didnt you do well getting through that appointment and putting yourself across so very well to that consultant!

Well done

I know the leflunomide has helped many, I never did get on with the MTX brilliantly and it never worked at all on the RA- but its not the be all and end all- lots of other meds to try...

Pleased to see you got a few weeks grace too.
Try and detox a bit.

I have got this download of "the beach" guided imagery to help me switch off a bit at night.

its on i-player

Jenni xx
how to be a velvet bulldoser
dorat
#24 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:36:24 AM Quote
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Hang on in there Naomi! We have all been where you are now, a dreadful place to be, but things do get better.
Well done for getting across to your consultant how bad things are for you. Hope the leflunamide helps you, and 3 weeks without the mtx side effects should help too!
Thinking of you.

Love Doreen xx

JulieM
#25 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:56:54 AM Quote
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Great going in putting across your thoughts to the consultant-I hope you drenched all his important papers in tears!

And we are ALWAYS here for each other.
YES I'VE CHANGED, PAIN DOES THAT TO PEOPLE.
suzanne_p
#26 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 12:08:34 PM Quote
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hi Naomi,

when you are diagnosed and then have to face going onto such powerful drugs .. it is such a lot to take in. i know when i was first diagnosed i just sat and cried and thought that's my lot now, didn't think i'd even be able to take my first Methotrexate. in fact when i did, the week leading up to it i lost over half a stone in weight with stress and i was eating so it was pure anxiety that led me to lose the weight .. then i had a lot of help from NRAS Helpine and my Rheumy Nurse and decided a day to take it. Helpline said i could phone as soon as i'd taken it, my GP was also fantastic as well as my lovely Rheumy Nurse as i said.

fortunately i didn't suffer any side affect like you have with any of my drugs, also on Hydroxy and now Humira .. but as i increased the Methotrexate from 10mg to 20mg my sleep was awful ( i have never been the best of sleepers ) and that was what really dragged me down. i did put a post about in on the forum back then.

when i went for Consultation's fortunately i have a great Consultant as well she did listen to me as saw that i was low and felt i couldn't go on feeling like this she put me back down to 10mg Methotrexate as the Methotrexate wasn't doing anything for me at the time, and over the weeks sleep did improve again, so really what i am saying is that was the side affect i had. and i know i couldn't have continued feeling like that. i felt like i couldn't cope with the day ahead.

my pain has never been really bad although my CRP was high .. highest it got to was 105 and it only came down with Depo injections, although fortunately now i am on Humira it has gradually come down and i really feel quite well, although i am not fully under control yet.

i also went onto an Anti-Depressant of a night purely to help with my sleep and i know they often go hand in hand with a chronic disease.

i know i'm rambling but really what i'm trying to say is that with help from your Rheumy Department and now a Clinical Physchologist you will come through the other side, and if you feel the drugs are what is still causing the nausea then i am sure this will be taken into consideration further down the line.

hang on in there .. i know all the medical people are looking out for my best interest and well being and i feel after 20 months or so i am finally getting somewhere, where i don't dread every day and i can look forward to things we have planned etc.

good luck and do keep us posted we are all here for support,

Suzanne x
Lorna-A
#27 Posted : Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:02:21 AM Quote
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Hi Naomi,

Glad to hear you believe us when we say there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Smile Even bigger hugs to let you know I have been thinking about you and hoping you feel a little better knowing others do care.

My turning point came when I first had the RA confirmed and like I said was completely shell shocked. My husband and elder daughter knew of the possible outcome, but my younger 2 daughters didn't at that point. on telling them my younger daughter said through her tears she wanted " her old mum back " She had seen me struggle so much trying to do things, she was only 13 at this point. I reached forward and hugged her and told her I could not feel any worse than I had already felt, it had to start to get better, now I was given my new Triple Therapy. Seeing her crying upset me more and made me more determined to get on top of this.

It wasn't easy I had taken it for around a month when I was affected with a severe rash, I was told to stop all the drugs, I was frantic thinking I was to go back to where I had been. The RA nurses called and assured me things would be fine, I just had to start them slowly and see how I re acted this time. Fortunately it was ok this time as my system was just getting used to the powerful assortment I was now taking. I have never looked back.

This will be you in a short time too, I do sincerely hope this new drug you have been given really helps you. Ask Nras for my home number if you would like someone to chat to. I'm sure I could make you smile.ThumpUp I am and have always been a very positive person I try not to let things get me down. It is hard sometimes though.

I have my Consultant on Thursday, its sods law I have kept well all year even pushing things at times. This last week I have paid dearly though ( self inflicted)
I am full of aches with all my decorating. The daft thing is I will no doubt do it again another time, I can't help myself. I enjoy doing decorating and gardening, thats the two which usually causes me problems when I do overdo it. I do pace myself too, most of the time.

It Christmas, apart from the good cheer and all the festivity's,the cold and frost make me ache that bit more. I was going to check on my greenhouse today and almost fell on the slippery ground. I left it until tomorrow.

Try making yourself do the smallest little jobs you have to do, like I did, I hung out with great difficulty 2 items on the washing line, ( that was a job and a half I can tell you ) but I did it and it made me realise I was in control NOT the RA. You actually feel just that little bit better.

Please give me a call and I will try my best to make you feel a little better, someone from Nras called me when I was really bad and she helped me no end.

Lots of love and good vibes to help you.

Be strong Take care Lorna xx Smile







Louise09
#28 Posted : Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:08:45 PM Quote
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Well done Naomi,

You have got a consultant that listens and is doing something! Stick with her! I hope the therapies work.

Lxx
Sara-R
#29 Posted : Wednesday, December 21, 2011 4:47:33 PM Quote
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Hi Naomi,

So glad to hear you're on the up and I'm moving to Torbay! I always feel like my consultant dismisses everything I say. What I was really trying to say since my last post which was a bit badly thought through was I can only give you my take on things but it went like this for me:

You feel like you want to die, you'll take anything and put up with the side effects for however long in the hope you'll feel better

You get all sorts of side effects but because its such a cocktail of drugs you don't know what's doing what

They tell you the drugs are working, the progression of the disease is slowed down and ignore anything else you have to say on the matter

You start trying to 'simplify' the cocktail to see what the minimum is you can get away with taking

You soldier on

You feel a bit better

You overdo it

You end up in bed

You up your drugs again to get on top of things

You analyse it all to distraction in an effort to work out what's doing what and it becomes a bit clearer

You soldier on

You feel a bit better

You overdo it

You end up in bed

And so it goes on until your life is slimmed down to the extent that you can manage! I'm still pushing the boundaries as I have done since a child. But everything will be OK next year!

Hopefully you'll get to 3 soon and won't go through the rest of it and be far more sensible than me.

Wishing you well
Sara
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Naomi1
#30 Posted : Wednesday, December 21, 2011 5:36:06 PM Quote
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Thank you so much everyone for your replies. They have really helped me to get through these awful last few days. I will phone NRAS Lorna and ask for them to pass my number on to you and I would love a chat about it all. Sara please ask for my details and I would really like to meet up when you move to Torbay. I will take your advice Jenni and do a Christmas detox with lots of rest, healthy food and plenty of (water) to drink to flush it all out of my system. I already feel like I have turned the corner just knowing that I have lots of support from this group and have fresh hope with the promise of new treatments. I have my Leflunomide induction on the 6th January so have a new goal to aim for. XXX
Belinda
#31 Posted : Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:13:17 PM Quote
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Big hug to you naomi and hope you have a lovely christmas and all the very best wishes.

Love
Belinda
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Lorna-A
#32 Posted : Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:18:20 AM Quote
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Hi Naomi,

Glad to see you have perked up a little. I have contacted Nras they will give you my number when you call them. It will be lovely to hear from you.

Keep the positives vibes you will keep getting stronger and better in yourself.

Looking forward to our chat, my Rhummy Appointment is tomorrow morning, hopefully all will be well there. I still ache after overdoing it last week.

Hey ho thats the price for not pacing myself. you'd think I would have learned by now. Smile

Take care Lorna xx Smile
bevie
#33 Posted : Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:45:30 PM Quote
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Hi Naomi, really hope the leuflnamide and counselling helps you.

Chin up.

Bevxx
LynW
#34 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:32:28 AM Quote
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Hi Naomi

I can't really add to what others have already said but wish you well over the coming weeks.

Leflunomide is another DMARD treatment which sometimes has a better success rate for some people than Methotrexate. I hope once you get started on it you see much improvement. Hang in there and try to stay positive, not easy when you feel rubbish, I know!

Take care and let us know how you get on Smile

Lyn x
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